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Hellblazer - comics vs film
ShadowSpark
2010-03-27 13:01


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I liked it. Mercury was sweet. I agree that the story was unsettling. I've noticed that the whole Hellblazer comic line is kind of twisted. It's really hard to follow in some places. It's like they took bits and pieces of all the religions and myths and stuff and mish-mashed them all together. Does that make any sense?
LucaM
2010-03-27 19:24


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It's like they took bits and pieces of all the religions and myths and stuff and mish-mashed them all together. Does that make any sense?

of course it does - in the Hellblazer world, that is.
John Constantine of the comics is a magus; one who deals with the underground current that flows through every religion and myth, from times forgotten, before the world was created... The movie rewrote him as an exorcist, probably to appeal to a wider American audience, but Constantine is much more than just that.
And then, each writer brought to the comics their own pet theories ;) Jamie Delano has a certain style, Garth Ennis another, Mike Carey goes back to Delano's demonology and mythology, Brian Azzarello brings Constantine back on earth and most important, on American territory...
Reading the whole collection is quite a journey in the history of religions and myths, indeed. But there is a silver thread running through all of it. Follow it and you'll be fine. I guess... ;) :D

ShadowSpark
2010-03-28 09:28


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I'm doing my best. What's your favorite story arc?
LucaM
2010-03-28 16:48


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Argh, it's hard to choose... I have a few favorites from every writer's work... but the writing styles are different, the tones are different...
Let's see... 'Dangerous Habits', 'Guys and Dolls', 'Critical Mass', 'How to Play with Fire', '... Freezes Over' and 'Ashes and Dust in the City of Angels' ( and I just have a thing for Brian Azzarello's writing, and combined with Marcelo Frusin's art, it's a win ;) :D ) 'Staring at the Wall' and almost everything Mike Carey wrote for Hellblazer, although he can lay the mythology and demonology pretty thick sometimes... 'Empathy is the Enemy' and everything else Denise Mina wrote... Andy Diggle didn't write anything 'memorable' for me but he did a very good job at tying up loose ends from previous story arcs and generally 'fixing' the series... 'Constantine's a fixer', he wrote. well... so's Andy Diggle :D I think I liked best 'The Root of Coincidence'
Oh, yes. The story arc that starts in issue 97, 'The Nature of the Beast' and after a few turns, ends in 128, the last issue of 'How to Play with Fire'. The story of a fox ;)
Not sure I like the last issues written by Peter Milligan. He's mostly recycling older themes, and not too great. But I'm willing to be surprised ;) :D

ShadowSpark
2010-03-28 18:30


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Wow, that's a lot of favorites. The only Hellblazer comics I've got - and therefore have read are these graphic novels:

Original Sins
The Devil You Know
The Fear Machine
The Family Man
Rare Cuts
Dangerous Habits

Oh, I've also got the trade paperback adaptation of the movie, but I don't think that counts.

I figure I'll get the graphic novel/trade paperback collections and then go about collecting the others. Having learned from my mom's Batman collecting, it's somewhat easier that way - and it also saves space. I've got the list of all the collections, but do you have any recommendations as to which I should get next? You've obviously got the experience.

LucaM
2010-03-28 20:03


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Yes, that's an easier collecting method. Me, I'm a nitpicker and a completist and I like to have the chronology clarified - although with comics in general and Vertigo comics in particular, that's somewhat difficult to achieve, what with the parallel universes and all that :D

IF you want to keep reading chronologically, then I'd say get the other Garth Ennis series : 'Fear and Loathing', 'Tainted Love', 'Damnation's Flame', 'Rake at the Gates of Hell', 'Son of Man'...

BUT most of all I'd recommend a 'stand-alone' Hellblazer graphic novel, and that's Mike Carey's "All His Engines". In Neil Gaiman's own words “ Mike Carey has written the quintessential Constantine story. If you want to know what the fuss is really about, you should read this book "
Gaiman would know, he wrote a few Hellblazer issues himself ;) :D

And I also recommend Jamie Delano's current return to writing John Constantine, with his graphic novel 'Pandemonium'. Also a 'stand-alone' novel, but it's got that special Delano touch on Hellblazer.
And in the same note, there's a two issues special edition of Hellblazer, 'The Horrorist', written by the same Jamie Delano... it's sad, unsettling, weird, and yet I like it.

IF you want to sample the styles of each writer, then I'd say try Warren Ellis' 'Haunted' and 'Setting Sun', Azzarello's 'Freezes Over' and 'Good Intentions'. Denise Mina's "Empathy is the Enemy' and 'Red Right Hand', Jenkins' 'Last Man Standing' and 'How to Play with Fire'... Carey's "All His Engines" (ABSOLUTELY XD) ,'Staring at the Wall', 'Stations of the Cross' , 'Down in the Ground Where The Dead Men Go' ...

I'm not much help, am I ? XD XD


Anakin McFly
2010-03-28 21:05

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...Wow, there's a lot of Hellblazer I still haven't read yet which you sent me. :\\

All His Engines is 126 pages long. :(

LucaM
2010-03-28 21:17


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... and there's a lot I haven't sent you :D

Anakin McFly
2010-03-28 21:43

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...Want the link to the Heroes graphic novels? :|
LucaM
2010-03-28 22:00


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need you ask?
OF COURSE I DO XD

Anakin McFly
2010-03-28 22:59

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Here you go. :D -> http://www.nbc.com/heroes/novels/novels_library.shtml?novel=8

Most are only about 6-7 pages long.

LucaM
2010-03-28 23:38


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thanks ! will read them , as soon as I finish the Bebop marathon.
yeah, I know, I know... XD

ShadowSpark
2010-03-29 06:29


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You can send them? How? Can you send me some? Please?
LucaM
2010-03-29 06:49


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ahem.
email me at *email deleted* and we'll talk about it ;)
LucaM
2010-04-21 06:40


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http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=17266

ShadowSpark
2010-04-21 14:33


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*shrugs* Meh...

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