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Let's have a Matrix thread
Anakin McFly
2017-10-27 13:23:56

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hmm.

From the 1996 draft:

Morpheus: Without the sun, the machines sought out a new energy source to survive. They discovered a new form of fusion. All that was required to initiate the reaction was a small electric charge. ... The human body generates more bio-electricity than a 120-volt battery and over 25,000 B.T.U.'s of body heat ... We are, as an energy source, easily renewable and completely recyclable ... All they needed to control this new battery was something to occupy our mind.

This still makes more scientific sense than the final version, which said that humans were the actual source of energy rather than the batteries for the energy source.

After more googling:


"The only "official statement" I know of is an off-hand comment from one of the brothers on the DVD commentary for one of the director's cuts (I forget which but I think its on the Ultimate Matrix Collection.) He is discussing the whole setup for the Matrix and mentions that they "originally had a different idea" before dismissing the question as irrelevant to the story. (e.g. it doesn't matter to him why the machines did what they did, as its just a plot device to get the story started.)

More details about what that original plan was come from some written material based on early pre-release information from the movie. Specifically, Neil Gaiman's short story "Goliath" is set in the Matrix universe and includes this alternate view. I have also heard that the "novelization" of the Matrix included this idea but there's no such novel that I know of; its possible that a novelized version of an early script exists (there's a published version of the shooting script for sale but that includes the story as filmed.)"
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/19817/was-executive-meddling-the-cause-of-humans-as-batteries-in-the-matrix


LucaM
2017-10-28 00:42:38


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thanks ! :)

... time to revisit the Ultimate Matrix Collection.
I watched all five DVDs in one weekend (don't even know how many hours of material is on them ) and it's all blurry :)

I did return to the film critics/philosophers' commentary of the movies and took notes; should revisit the other material too...

and yes, "Goliath" hints at that idea... but that's no 'direct' proof this was the original version of the Wachovskis... Gaiman is known to put his own spin on mythology in everything he writes.

LucaM
2018-02-27 01:21:02


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... this sounds tempting ;)

https://www.joe.ie/tech/nokia-are-bringing-back-the-very-cool-phone-from-the-matrix-with-a-20-day-battery-life-and-cheap-price-617495

LucaM
2018-07-29 20:05:30


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A whole is what has a beginning and middle and end. A beginning is that which is not a necessary consequent of anything else but after which something else exists or happens as a natural result. An end on the contrary is that which is inevitably or, as a rule, the natural result of something else but from which nothing else follows; a middle follows something else and something follows from it. Well constructed plots must not therefore begin and end at random, but must embody the formulae we have stated.
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:abo:tlg,0086,034:1450b

Aristot. Poet. 1450b



looks like something the Wachowskis have read before writing those scripts...

LucaM
2019-02-11 03:49:49


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https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/the-matrix-keanu-reeves-invented-a-new-kind-of-action-star.html

"Reeves has proven over the roughly 30 years of his acting career to be an essentially generous and curious performer with a near-beatific ability to be utterly present. This is often mistaken for a blank-slate quality. But he is far from blank. He has a roiling inner life, from the moment we meet him in The Matrix — surrounded by the detritus of his largely digital existence and with Massive Attack slinking from his headphones. As we watch him rebound from navigating a maze of cubicles with only the voice of a stranger as his guide to joyfully showcasing Yuen Woo-ping’s ecstatic fight choreography, we feel not only the wonder of this world the Wachowskis have created, but the joy of witnessing a star go supernova."

LucaM
2019-02-11 04:03:36


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more interesting articles here

https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/what-the-matrix-predicted-about-life-in-2019.html

https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/the-matrix-was-when-the-wachowskis-ambition-went-mainstream.html

https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/15-irrefutable-reasons-we-might-be-living-in-a-simulation.html

https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/the-matrix-red-pill-internet-delusional-drug.html

https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/neo-stunt-double-on-how-the-matrix-changed-action-forever.html

https://www.vulture.com/2019/02/the-matrix-laid-the-template-for-the-modern-blockbuster.html

LucaM
2019-02-17 22:52:46


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a few very interesting technical details about how the first movie was filmed

https://ascmag.com/articles/flashback-the-matrix

LucaM
2019-03-28 00:48:06


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https://www.thewrap.com/the-matrix-filmmakers-wanted-sandra-bullock-as-neo-before-keanu-reeves-took-the-role/

LucaM
2019-03-28 01:37:56


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http://collider.com/the-matrix-keanu-reeves-legacy/

... and that's one of the many reasons I love Neo. the actor, too.

Anakin McFly
2019-03-28 13:34:40

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https://www.thewrap.com/the-matrix-filmmakers-wanted-sandra-bullock-as-neo-before-keanu-reeves-took-the-role/

new headcanon is that she plays Neo in another universe.

...imagine the crossover potential.

LucaM
2019-03-30 01:27:32


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https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/3/28/18285249/the-matrix-1999-20th-anniversary-keanu-reeves-wachowskis-brothers

https://birthmoviesdeath.com/2019/03/28/would-the-matrix-be-a-hit-today

https://fashionista.com/2019/03/the-matrix-20th-anniversary-costumes

https://www.wired.com/story/the-matrix-legacy-book-excerpt/

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/matrix-changed-hollywood-but-was-it-worse-1197779

https://variety.com/2019/film/columns/the-matrix-20-years-later-1203176896/

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2019/03/the-matrix-movie-wachowskis-20th-anniversary/586084/

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/history-legacy-showmanship/matrix-the-20th

SaneSun
2019-04-28 13:47:45


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Don't know if this was posted before,but I thought this was awesome.
Matrix low cost version by Studio 188
https://youtu.be/ZF6akDuRyzc
LucaM
2019-05-11 01:03:29


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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/wachowskis-working-fourth-matrix-film-claims-john-wick-3-director-chad-stahelski-exclusive-122500310.html

https://uproxx.com/movies/fourth-matrix-movie-wachowskis/

and... no, it's not happening

https://www.slashfilm.com/the-matrix-reboot-wachowskis-chad-stahelski/

LucaM
2019-08-06 02:20:46


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https://ew.com/movies/2019/08/05/the-matrix-return-theaters-20th-anniversary/

if anyone wants to (re)watch The Matrix in theater - AND has an AMC theater nearby - here's your opportunity...

(Unfortunately, not in my country :( )

LucaM
2019-08-06 03:00:12


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bit more info on Matrix 4. whenever and if it's ever going to happen


https://www.slashfilm.com/new-matrix-movie-lilly-wachowski/

https://geekculture.co/wachowskis-not-involved-in-new-matrix-movie-but-hopes-it-is-better-than-original/

LucaM
2019-08-21 04:47:45


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well... sounds like it's happening after all. maybe. we shall see...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/matrix-4-officially-a-go-with-keanu-reeves-carrie-anne-moss-and-lana-wachowski-exclusive/ar-AAG4X4G

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/matrix-4-keanu-reeves-carrie-anne-moss-lana-wachowski-1203307955/

https://deadline.com/2019/08/the-matrix-new-movie-keanu-reeves-lana-wachowski-writing-directing-1202674278/

Freya
2019-08-21 15:59:28


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wow (it’s a good serie :) )
LucaM
2019-08-24 00:05:25


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the news is getting better...
http://collider.com/the-matrix-4-concept-artists/

https://www.slashfilm.com/the-matrix-concept-artists-the-matrix-4/

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